His story is not particularly well known outside of Houston, but Richards promising career as a starter came to an end at the age of 30 because of a life-threatening stroke. Some estimates put the fastball at 101-103 mph, others as high as 107.6 mph. His dominance only lasted about three seasons (2002-2004), but during that time, Gagne was simply overpowering. Carlton might be the pitcher most responsible for making the strikeout fashionable inMLB. All Rights Reserved by Baseball Almanac, Inc.Hosted by Hosting 4 Less. His 4,875 strikeouts rank second all time, and his 10.6 SO/9 IP is first all time by a healthy margin. The Baby Braves might be ready ahead of schedule, Real or Not? He has been playing sports his whole life and loves to talk about them. Ted Williams once took a spring training pitch from the 58 Dalkowski and reportedly never saw it. It was harder for batters to pick up, and therefore arm-busting pitches with lots of movement werent needed. (Amos Rusie in 1893). President Alvin Bradley of the Cleveland Indians agreed and Rex D. McDill, Cleveland electronics engineer, built the machine. Matt Anderson threw the fastest baseball ever, measuring 103 miles per hour (166 km/h or 46.0 m/s). So who is the fastest pitcher in baseball? Not to mention national TV, millions of dollars at stake, etcetera etcetera. Could a 108 mph fastball soon be in the future? He first broke into the major leagues with the Reds in 2011 and was immediately given the title of "Fastest Pitcher in History". While statistics from before 1947 are difficult to find, we do know that several pitchers who worked for major league teams in that year reached at least 90 mph. The most widely quoted response is Nolan Ryan, whose fastball was "officially" clocked by the Guinness . I don't believe they threw, on average, as hard as pitchers throw today. Source: The Cultural Encyclopedia of Baseball, 1997. Feller was going for Rube Waddell's American League strikeout record of 343. His career 10.6 SO/9 IP is evidence of that, although hes up to 11.8 this season. Dalkowski was clocked at only 93.5, but a few mitigating factors existed: 1) Dalkowski had pitched in a game the day before, so he could be expected to throw 5-10 mph slower than usual; 2) there was no mound to pitch from, which Feller had enjoyed, and this would drop his velocity by 5-8 mph; 3) he had to pitch for 40 minutes before the machine could measure his speed, and he was exhausted by the time there was a reading. You couldnt hit it far no matter what. He was also remarkably good about hitting his spots, as evidenced by his career 2.96 SO/BB ratio. The bullpen was for youngsters, oldsters and bushers. At the Aberdeen Proving Grounds he was measured using the ever-popular speeding motorcycle test, once used in 1914 with Walter Johnson who reached 99.7 mph, and Feller reached 98.6 mph. They each pitched at least one inning at 100 mph or faster. Theres a reason the kid had two Cy Young awards by the time he was 25. The Big Train, as Walter Johnson was known, did his damage in the early part of the 20th century as a starter for the Washington Nationals. Fans, researchers, historians and even the players argue all the time about who was the fastest pitcher of all-time. Still this is a surprise for me. He pitched a one-hitter -- with nine walks and nine strikeouts. For more information, please see our Copyright 2023 Baseball America Enterprises. And that is #62, Herb Score. No, pitchers didn't throw 150 miles an hour. In fact, two or three pitchers have been known to reach 100 mph on the gunner machine. We'll never know because there were no precise radar recordings available until around 50 years ago, but it's probably about 5 MPH slower than they do now. During his Rookie of the Year campaign in 2010, the righty struck out 71 batters in 69.1 innings and walked only 18. For scouts, the Speedgun was known as the slow gun while the JUGS gun registered faster readings and was the fast gun.. Ok, pre war pitchers were not throwing hard, is it safe to say that because pitchers were not throwing hard then, Ruth took advantage of it? The top speed is 90 miles per hour. Location, location, location. In 1963 for Elmira he finally started throwing strikes. Atley Donald and Van Lingle Mungo were early hard-throwers that were actually measured. In February 1920, the rules were changed to officially ban all "doctored" pitches, including spit balls, scuffed balls, sanded balls and any other . are especially hard on the arm. Could we eventually see 110 mph? Radar guns now routinely measure the modern pitcher's performance and the magic fastball number is now set at 100 miles per hour. Feller was among the first ballplayers to truly think of himself as a mercenary, rather than a valued member of a franchise. According to http://www.kingandhiscourt.com/articles/article6.htm: Carl Hubbells screwball Despite his failure, he has been described as the fastest pitcher ever. The fastest pitcher ever may have been 1950s phenom and flameout Steve Dalkowski. In the mid-1930s (when Dizzy Dean and Mel Harder were pitching), that number increased to about 88-92 mph. Stories about the fastest pitchers in history have also appeared in the Associated Press. Because 1) they weren't asked to max out, and 2) everyone in every sport is stronger and faster, more dynamic today than yesterday; why would pitchers be any different? And even disregarding the advances in training, hitting is much more of a science now, with statistics layered upon statistics topped with healthy doses of psychology and scouting. It measured velocity closer to the pitchers release point than the JUGS gun, so the JUGS flipped to being the slow gun. Who was the fastest pitcher in baseball history? But what made Clemens great wasnt his statistical achievements, but rather his approach to the game. First Miss Cappy Ogiun, a visitor from Orlando, Fla., tried her speed yesterday. New York Yankees How hard did pitchers throw back in the day. Its easy to forget just how good Doc was with the Mets after his career pretty much fell apart in the late 1990s. There seems little doubt that Feller had one of the hardest fastballs of all time. Thrown almost identically to a fastball, the changeup is hurled at . Like Gangster Octopus says, we remember the exceptions. Less games meant more time to recuperate between starts. The Speedgun, developed by Decatur Technologies (a long-time maker of police radar guns) measured closer to the plate than the JUGS gun. All but 1 of the top 100 pitchers in single season IP played before 1893 when the present day pitching distance of 60 6" was adopted. Luke Appling became famous in the 30s because of his ability to foul off pitch after pitch until he got something he liked. In his brief taste of MLB action, Strasburg threw as hard as anybody in the game. Youre definitely on to something here. That year, Amos Rusie led the National League with 482 innings. -- and his pitching motion was practically indistinguishable from the pitching motions we see today. Lee's career ERA was 2.25, and she was known for throwing a wicked knuckleball. But there will never be another strikeout pitcher who played as long as Ryan did (27 seasons) for as well as he did. For one thing, if Feller threw that hard, or something close to it, I think that would be reflected more in the numbers. **, Press J to jump to the feed. Just inside is a set of photo-electric tubes, and five feet back is another set. It wasn't exactly Chuck Yeager breaking the sound barrier, but it was a remarkable achievement. Smoky Joe Wood often said, "I threw so hard, I thought my arm would fly right off my body." I thought that even the top power pitchers of the 1920s and '30s -- again, before Feller -- topped out around 90 miles an hour. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. He didnt and ended up winning 254 games. Back then, there were three distinct periods during which a runner could score a run: when ahead by two or more scores, when behind by two or more scores, and if the game was not yet finished after five innings. Pitchers were not included in yesterday's test but "unofficially," Bob Feller of Cleveland threw three balls into the meter from a distance of 20 feet. Woods career didnt turn out exactly as planned, as repeated arm injuries robbed him off his explosiveness, but the right-hander is still the active leader with 10.3 SO/9 IP, a mark that is second only to Randy Johnson among starters. The Pitch/FX system that MLB used in 2010 measured pitches at roughly 50 feet from home plate, which is where the 105.1 mph of Chapmans fastball was measured. McDowell, otherwise known as Sudden Sam, is another one of the pitchers youve probably never heard of unless you grew up as a Cleveland Indians fan during the 1960s and 1970s. Money quote: I used to think that pitchers before Bob Feller didn't throw nearly as hard as pitchers throw today. Goodens 2,293 career strikeouts are just 46thall-time, but 1,875 of them came in his 11 seasons as a New York Met. Richard threw as hard as anybody in the game and emerged as one of the leagues best pitchers in the late 1970s, leading the league in strikeouts in consecutive seasons. One other thing to remember. Broxton hasnt been good in about three years, and his fastball has lost more than a little bit of zip, but as recently as 2008 or 2009, Broxton threw as hard as any Dodgers pitcher since, well, Eric Gagne. Wagner is the left-handed National League compliment to Mariano Rivera and was as dominant of a closer as you can find. Now, Newhouser was no slouch, a two-time MVP who also finished second in the voting in 1946 (Feller was sixth). Nobody else in the league can do that." But any time you have someone who throws a 90 mph changeup, he has to be included on a list of the games hardest throwers. Other American League clubs will be given a chance at it later. The moment a baseball leaves a pitcher's hand, it starts to slow down because of drag. The next year, Andy Pettitte of the New York Yankees broke this record again with a ball that traveled at 103.3 miles per hour (167.4 km/h or 45.5 m/s). Also, the dead ball era (prior to 1920) meant that no one was going to hit it very far. Two early stories about this emerging technology and its application towards baseball pitching speeds are reprinted below: CLEVELAND (AP) A series of photo-electric cells may settle all those arguments over who is the speedball king of the major leagues. For a while speeds were measured about 5 feet in front of the plate, then then they were measured by averaging the speed out of the hand and when it crossed the plate, pitch f/x measured speeds at 55 feet from home, finally statcast now presents speeds out of the hand. April 16 was a good day for Feller. Mike Trout His 105.1 mph fastball was the first time the 105 mph barrier had been broken. By 1890 overhand pitching was legal, and that is when we first hear about pitchers who were fearsomely fast, such as Amos Rusie and Cy Young. In 1947, his K's per 9 dropped from 8.4 to 5.9 (although that still led the league). Of course, you could have pitchers throw 350 innings a year now, too. Chapman is capable of hitting 105 repeatedly and may still be developing physically. Bench gave in to the veteran (who had recently strung together four consecutive seasons with 200+ strikeouts) and signaled for a fastball. Today's games often last three or four hours! Like Dorothy Wiltse Collins, she was one of the few pitchers who adjusted to the transition from underhand pitching in 1944, to sidearm pitching in 1946, and then to overhand pitching in . Williams swore he never saw the ball and claimed that Dalkowski probably was the fastest pitcher who ever lived. He pitched 79 innings that month and started seven of Cleveland's final 17 games. Sign me up! What is the world record speed for throwing a baseball? #TBT: How fast was Bob Feller's fastball? Who could throw the fastest fastball? Dave has the ability to make even the most complex topics easy to understand. Pat Jordan in The Suitors of Spring (1974). By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. At Griffith Stadium on Aug. 20, the machine was set up and Feller would fire in some fastballs. "I won the All-Star Game in Boston. How fast do you have to throw a curveball. Wood is now blowing away hitters as a full-time reliever. The official reading was in 2006, and its doubtful that Zumaya can come anywhere close to that figure now, but for a time, you could call Zumaya the hardest thrower ever. I mean i wasn't there so I'm skeptical. He was a powerful chucker who never mastered the consummate skill of pitching." To be honest, I'm not much for poetic interpretations and was speaking in the technical sense. Chapman's speed came in only one game during his career. For decades, comparing pitch velocities has often been an apples-and-oranges discussion. Back to how fast Feller threw. "You can't hit what you can't see." Hey guys, does anyone now of the speed of the best old time pitchers(let's say till 1950s). . Weintraub writes: However, since the machine measured the speed of the ball as it passed through its sensors, unlike modern radar guns that clock the ball as it leaves the pitcher's hand, it actually flew much harder. I would assume Ford threw in the mid-high 80s, topping out around 90. Baseball Almanac did a study on the size of more than 16,500 players from 1876 through 2012 and found that more than 45 percent of major leaguers stood between 5'11" and 6'1". The current MLB Statcast system measures velocity as the pitch leaves the pitchers hand. Both were mentioned in the Meter to Record Feller's Speed article above and the unit of measure was feet per second. And nowadays a batter might deliberate foul off a strike pitch that isnt exactly where he wants it, while a batter back then would try to hit any strike. "The key here is that he did not pitch in pro baseball. Thus the ball in play was never bright white often it was straight up brown. At least thats what the Indians keep telling themselves. Baseball buffs: how did old-time pitchers throw for so many innings? Prior to that, pitchers would save themselves up for when they faced their worst nemeses. Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled. In baseball statistics, pitch count is the number of pitches thrown by a pitcher in a game. We finished in the second division, 18 games below .500 in sixth place. He has also appeared in several television commercials, most notably for Old Milwaukee beer. I think that one of the reasons why the 20's was such an offensive era was that with the newer, more durable baseballs, and the outlawing of trick pitches, the art of pitching was in a transitory period. Three pitch speeds: slow, slower, and reverse." Live balls gave birth to Babe Ruth and subsequent homer-blasters. In any event, I think that it is a combination of all these factors. I had my fastest pitched timed when I was younger. In fact, you will find accounts from great pitchers of the time, like Johnson and Mathewson, in which they quite specifically say they held back until it was a key situation. America's Pastime. Now, youre expected to throw your best the entire game. House replied, "Others will throw harder, but no one will throw harder for longer.". When you have a good curve ball, it makes your strike zone larger because the hitters swing at pitches that are outside. Red Sox bullpen's tightrope act will wear thin, Real or not? New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. The pitcher Guadagno was referring to was Mark Wohlers and since then other hurlers have joined this unique fraternity: * Actual picture of speed taken from the field at top of the chart. Pre-WW2, there were probably only a handful of guys who could crack 90. It all depends on what pitch the pitcher is throwing, fastball are faster than curve balls, changeups. They used a gravity drop interval recorder. Matt Anderson, has thrown the fastest pitched baseball which measured 103 miles per hour (166 km/h or 46.0 m/s). Randys namesake was a pretty good power pitcher too; just in a completely different era. Pitchers before 1930 (or so) regularly finished their starts, too. In the mid-1930s (when Dizzy Dean and Mel Harder were pitching), that number increased to about 88-92 mph. He finished with 4,196 in his career, good for fourth all-time and second among left-handers. He played in nine leagues in nine years. I had two or three different kinds of curve balls and a lot of confidence in each of them. The tech continued to improve. The list above IS NOT a comprehensive breakdown of every pitcher to ever surpass the 100 mph barrier, but rather a list of pitchers we have seen on ESPN Game of the Week, SportsCenter, or in person eclipsing the century mark. Stephen Louis Dalkowski Jr. (June 3, 1939 - April 19, 2020), nicknamed Dalko, was an American left-handed pitcher. Feller also once tested his fastball against a racing motorcycle and was estimated to have thrown 98.6 mph that time as well (or 104 mph by some modern estimates). The pitcher wants to keep the pitch count low because of his stamina. Yeah pitching is about speed and arm and shoulder flexibility. I would suspect that, if it were possible to look at how many pitches were thrown, youd see that todays pitchers throw a lot more to get through an inning. Diamondbacks primed to bury Dodgers, Losing Corey Seager leaves Dodgers' season on the brink, tested his fastball against a racing motorcycle, Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. "Batting slumps? That's 2,118 more than the 3,730 that MLB leader David Price threw in 2014. He struck out 276 batters in 218 innings as arookiein 1984 and then came back the next season to win the Cy Young award by striking out 268 batters in 276.2 innings. However, Major League Baseball officially considers that pitch to be a 105.8 mph fastball. Ryan threw the knuckleball from 1973 to 1986. Mostly, pitchers tended to save themselves for key situations. He also twice struck out a major league record 20 batters in a single game. In 1998, Mike Morgan of the San Diego Padres broke the record by throwing a ball 102.1 miles per hour (164.7 km/h or 44.6 m/s). Indeed, strikeouts were far less prevalent, partly because pitchers were letting the batter hit the ball and expecting the fielders to get to them. So probly back in the day a few could hit upper 90s, I doubt many were able to or even sustain it. As long as hitters kept missing it, I was going to keep throwing it. I believe in the dead ball era, guys topped out around 85 mph. The best workhorses of that time approached 700 innings - and they weren't even playing 154 games in a season yet. Real or Not? Allie Reynolds of the Yankees was tough, and I might think about him for 24 hours before a game, but Robert Feller: I'd think about him for three days.". The Meter to Record Feller's Speed article mentioned it was specifically going to examine his pitching speed. In addition, teams had only 40 fouls to play per game back then. Her best was 40 feet per second. Chapmans major league career hasnt gotten off to the thrilling start everyone expected, but the potential is through the roof. Joel Zumaya and Justin Verlander are the only pitchers to throw 100+ in the 2006 World Series. I am scertain that most pitchers probably had shortened carrers because of the overuse, but the exceptions stick out in historythe Cy Younsg, Gorver Cleveland Alexanders and Walter Johnsons. I thought I might give Bob Feller something to worry about. 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