I saw an angel come on a white horse.(F89, p. 1) EDITORS NOTE: Bob, in another interview, identifies this angel as Gabriel. was the nephew of this church member. Bob spoke about some things to occur, and gave Mike a personal, seemingly, supernatural word of prophecy, that convinced Mike he was from God, throwing out all of the red flags and other warnings, embracing everything Bob said, and actually building his ministry upon Bobs revelations! . This brings me to one further point at this time. Full updates of Bonnie Jones' and or Lyn Kost's ministry available at. As you know, that church fell to pieces a little later. (Why dont you) run away tonight and go back to town and get your gun and go kill them people, and then come back and sign into Veterans Hospital. . Things that we encourage you to share include the audio sermons, O Timothy magazine, FBIS articles, and the free eVideos and free eBooks. By his own acknowledgement, MB: Because Bob had had a long history of rejection over a number of years cause every time he prophesied, something would happen cause most of them were negativethey threw him out as being in the occult and to putting curses on people.. The devils will move Jones back into signs and wonders if he will avoid these subject matters! concerning this mans behavior, but to my horror the leadership there began to put a great deal of stock in his prophesies. We say, Lord, we dont throw out prophecy. The 1960s reveal the Spirit of God. Funeral arrangements may be sent to: Reins-Sturdivant 270 . His prophecies have spanned over three decades as the Lord has enabled him to foretell earthquakes, tidal waves, comets, and weather patterns. Anytime God is going to start a fire, he starts it with lightning. This experience he had in August of 1975 Jones claims he had a near-death experience that was caused by a severe, painful nosebleed and found himself in heaven. TBN also paid thousands of dollars in debts that Ford had accrued. There was a movement of the Spirit with the youth. Bob Jones was the eleventh of twelve children born to William Alexander and Georgia Creel Jones. (Isaiah 53:5-6, John 6:29, Romans 4:5, First Peter 3:18). The 5 fold ministry is found in Eph.4:11 and there is no priesthood mentioned, it is about equipping the church. Savchuk, Vlad [@vladhungrygen]. He starts getting five to ten dreams and visions a night from 1974 to the present, supposedly from God. Isaiah 9:15: "The ancient and honourable, he is the head; and the prophet that teacheth lies, he is the tail." Bob Jones first became known by being part of the Kansas city prophets back in the 1980's. A memo dated Nov. 10, 1992 listed Bob's itinerary for an Apr. During this time period there was a group called Grace Ministries ministerial team which consisted of Paul Cain, Bob Jones, John Paul Jackson, David Parker, Jim Goll, Francis Frangipane and Mike Bickle that were of the former the Kansas City Fellowship (that became the Metro Vineyard of Kansas City). The color blue can also mean one is not getting enough oxygen. And some of them has never come back to the Lord since then., MB: So. Instagram, 13 Feb. 2023, https://www.instagram.com/p/Colp6OgrUu-/. He taught Word-Faith doctrines and promised prosperity and healing to those who supported his ministry and exercised faith. The 2000's will be the Glory of God. Amen! Mike embraces Bobs visions and utilizes them to the fullest in the advancement of The Movement.e. We are dealing here with a man who claims to have had more revelations, visions, and supernatural experiences with Jesus and angels than that of all the men of God in the Bible put together. I brought a 100 year prophesy for a long time, lets look at it. One plague was influenza while the other was like influenza in nature. Go kill them or forgive them (F88, p. 6)EDITORS NOTE: He does eventually forgive them. BEWARE OF THE "PROPHETIC" WARLOCKS AND WITCHES! And miracles and everything else, and got anointed by it. Dr. Bob Jones III joins me in my office to discuss his upcoming marriage to Dr. Karen Rowe. It went like this: Euossa, Euossa, use rela sema calah mala kanah leulla ssage nalan. The 1970's was the Word of God. Supernatural experiences are an every day and night occurrence to Mr. Jones, and there is no end to how flamboyant the stories can be. When he visited Father Divine in New York, he brought along four valets, four bodyguards, three secretaries, his housekeeper, a hairdresser, three musicians, 60 singers, a personal cook, and a dietitian. So according to their end time prophetic army they have a base 10-20% accuracy level. Christ can only return when the people of God have reached that place of unity in which the Spirit and the Bride can say, Come (p. 73). I had to warn them. When he came into the Vineyard - I clearly remember it as I thought it was beyond bizarre. Barry says there was an old Bob Jones prophecy from the early 2000s (I think 2005) where Bob Jones said "first the honkers would come, then the Eagle!" . c. Walt Simon, in his 40s; died December 16, 1976. Crouch denied the allegations and tried to blacken the character of his accuser, which was not difficult to do, as Ford is a convicted sex and drug offender, but it seems very strange that Crouch would pay such a large sum to a man if there was no truth to his allegation. We do not solicit funds from those who do not agree with our preaching and who are not helped by these publications. His first wife, who accused him of fathering a child out of wedlock, took their three children and moved to Hawaii, but Clarence went right on as if nothing had happened . Now 2000 years ago the Savior was revealed. They preach a charismatic prosperity message and live lavishly. [Book], Cross Triple Package 20% Discount [BOOKS], Deceivers and False Prophets Among Us [book], http://thequickenedwordcommunity.com/cgi-bin/members/cforums.cgi?forumid= 112372859729293postid=9990224019736 action=messagesthreadid=9990224019736), Sound Doctrine for a Glorious Church [podcast], What the Bible says about Effeminate Men [podcast] [shorts video], WHY this Asbury Ordeal is a Blessing [podcast], Judging and Examining Ourselves [podcast], The Marriage Supper of the Lamb in Heaven [video]. cause most of them were negativethey threw him out as being in the occult and to putting curses on people. . Youre going to be here the rest of your life anyway. Since that time he has seen many, many times five to ten visions and dreams a night. Man, you open the door to the devil every time. As they were burying them the Lord told me, This isnt the last. Prophecy is primarily for speak(ing) to men for their edification, encouragement, and comfort. Bob Jones, John Paul Jackson, and Paul Cain, who were known as the 'Kansas City Prophets,' were all buried on 2/22 This win is on a palindrome day of 02/02/2020 (hasn't happened for 909 years). The 5th edition of this book, November 2014, is significantly enlarged and revised throughout. Its called the place of divine health. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Design a site like this with WordPress.com, In discussing Bob Jones disqualifying history, heres my comment and a response from one commentator, ALLEGED SUPERNATURAL EXPERIENCES IN HIS EARLY DAYS. Sir Bob Jones gave up drinking a year ago and says he still feels like a young man. But from that time forth my hands worked funny. BOB JONES BEGINS HAVING TECHNICOLOR VISIONSOFTEN BETWEEN FIVE AND TEN A NIGHTAND SUPPOSEDLY HAS HAD THEM FOR 15 YEARS! , April 11, 2009). . He was not, and I emphasize not, asked to leave our church. . A bolt of lightning. And you know there is about a list of 12 people that are the problems why you are here. The demon speaking to him in the hospital, Everybody has just mistreated you all your life. He praised David Duplessis for building bridges between Pentecostals and Roman Catholics, and he praised Jewish rabbi Yechiel Eckstein for building bridges between Jews and Christians. Certainly Jones has not received enough correct Bible teaching to recognize there are other influences going on his life. If you talk poverty, youll have it. The Pentecostal-charismatic movement is one of the major building blocks of the end-time, one-world church, and young people in particular need to be informed and forewarned. He has built a large library on the subject, interviewed influential Pentecostals and charismatics, and attended churches and conferences with media credentials in many parts of the world. You find out what your blood is and what you can do.Bob Jones 2/95 Vancouver, Canada Vineyard, (http://thequickenedwordcommunity.com/cgi-bin/members/cforums.cgi?forumid= 112372859729293postid=9990224019736 action=messagesthreadid=9990224019736). Now the Lord is saying that before the apple tree blooms this spring . But a lot of people have got healed by it, too. Prophet Bob Jones is pictured here prophesying to the first nations (Native American) people, as well as delivering a powerful word to the believers who came for a touch of Heaven. Yes, Im going to write and spread His love because I love Him and His people, and my heart is to live for Him. Dr. Bob Jones Jr. went home to be with the Lord on November 12, 1997. It sounds more like the Greek myths to me. For no one can lay a foundation other than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. Sincerely yours, (signed) Alan Needham (Pastor). Bob Jones is remembered for his many end-time prophetic visions that have come to pass, including a prophetic word about the current corona virus pandemic given many years ago:". The 2000 would reveal the glory of God. Bonnie Jones has a great love for the Lord, the Word, and the Cross of Jesus. There will be a full manifestation of the gifts of the Holy Spirit in Gods timing. At the same time, it was clear Paul was a gifted prophet. You are welcome to make copies of these at your own expense and share them with friends and family, but they cannot be posted to web sites. So I knew instantly, the first minute he prophesied his acceptance; so I knew he was the false prophetno question in my mind.(P.His, p. 14), Mike Bickle was, however, soon won over by supernatural signs, to believe that Bob Jones must be from God. It was like two big ole doors right here in his heart and itd be just that, and they was gone. He then saw people that Jesus didnt want who were on an elevator and an escalator to hell which was like a cold storage place. Jesus then commissioned him to touch the leaders in a new last days church so that he could absorba billion souls unto myself in the last day,Jones said. Their 2020 super bowl win made headlines as it was a historical moment for the Chiefs as it had been 50 long years since their last championship. This false prophet can only gain access into the lives of those who are already deluded by their rejection of the LORD and His holy truth (2 Thess. And a ball of fire danced all over that basement, and didnt hurt me. Help me. And the voice spoke to me and says, I cant help you, Bob, until you forgive them. I said, Oh, Lord, help us! (F88, p.11). Believe for more. Because when my hands turn purple it means youre getting through to the Royalty; youre getting through to the top. This is the Mary Gaston Jones died on May 12, 1989 in her 101st year83 years after the death of her husband's first wife. So I knew instantly, the first minute he prophesied his acceptance; so I knew he was the false prophetno question in my mind.. No wonder you are like you areTheyve got you in the crazy ward anyway, and you truly are crazy. The book deals with the history of Pentecostalism beginning at the turn of the 20th century, the Latter Rain Covenant, major Pentecostal healing evangelists, the Sharon Schools and the New Order of the Latter Rain, Manifest Sons of God, the charismatic movement, the Word-Faith movement, the Roman Catholic Charismatic Renewal, the Pentecostal prophets, the Third Wave, and recent Pentecostal and charismatic scandals. There is no detailed information available concerning his spiritual life upon leaving the mental ward. This is disconcerting, considering the demonic influence in his life just prior, and esp. , Aug. 23, 2007). Other pastors in Kansas City acknowledged that; The exaggerated stories of rejection gain sympathy for Bob and fit into their theology of prophets being people who have had to deal with rejection all their lives. And there were billions of them. And a ball of fire danced all over that basement, and didnt hurt me. , December 2015, Bakker agreed with Tom Horns prediction that the Antichrist will come in 2016. , June 3, 1988, p. 5). And when that happens that means youve got some incense thats gone up. You stood before the Lord BJ: He was showing me a throne room and He was showing me a seat that I needed to sit in one dayand there was a guide that stood in front of me, and he was like red sunglasses (F88, p.2-3)/, http://www.bobjones.org/?zone=/unionactive/view_page.cfm&page= 2020202020Photos202620Bio 27s2020202020 Bob Jones Web Site, When only seven years old and walking on a dirt road in Arkansas; the Arch Angel Gabriel appeared to Bob Jones on a white horse and blew a double silver trumpet in his face. Two nights! No one in my background had ever heard the audible voice of God. Two of the most spiritual children I know were the Pliskas. Mikes whole ministry was riddled with false directives, false prophecy and revelation, and false doctrine. Bob Jones, who operated in prophetic ministry for more than four decades, has gone home to be with the Lord. MB: =Mike BickleWell, I believe our history is deeply tied up, in a human sense, to Bob JonesAnd I believe that Gods goodness towards us, giving us this history, began when the Lord separated Bob Jones many, many years ago. And they said it, Forget it, we are not getting rid of our sin., BJ: That motorcycle was part of their sin. (ROH, p. 6)And then he began to proceed to tell me an hour and a half or two hours, though I forgot the time, of this most unbelievable layout of visions that you could ever imagine in your mindIncredible, not like because it was so realisticincredible, like the first time you ever see Star Wars. Really a profit submitting to a preacher? Many will say this not a few. Whats interesting is that this time revival is happening at Asbury College. what did it look like? Jones- It looked like gold and it looked like light and it was a light not like the light you see here which is artificial, he responded, adding that the light, the glory of the Lord, frightened him. To where you can rest from your labors and God will work His work through you in your rest and in your peace. That is not a biblical reason for divorce. http://www.banner.org.uk/kcp/Abberent%20Practises.pdf p.41, Bob and Mikes VersionA FABRICATED STORY CONCERNING BOB JONES p.42 The following story, which is often told by Mike Bickle to give credibility to Bob Jones as a prophet, is a complete fabrication of facts. My son, George, who is now a Youth Pastor in the Chicago area, traveled with a Gospel Group that sang in the church Mike co-pastored in Saint Louis a number of years ago. Bob Jones (not the one connected with Bob Jones University) died 1 on February 14, 2014 at the age of 83. Bob Jones was never asked to leave the church; Bob Jones did not publicly give warning to the church.(Testimony Letter 33), Testimonies From Other Pastors In Kansas City Of Bobs Behaviour, I can verity that he (Bob Jones) was at that time very unstable in his behaviorCAMERON HARVESTER CHURCHFebruary 28, 1990 Dear Ernie, I listened to your tape, do we just keep smiling and say nothing? this last week and thought Id drop you a line to let you know how I feel about it personally & how I am responding to the calls that I have received. What? In the early 80's God said He was going to change the Soviet Union. Me. Go kill them or forgive them, Shortly thereafter in 1974 Bob begins having technicolor visions-often between 5 and 10 a night-and supposedly for the next 15 years. And when I first met him, I couldnt hardly comprehend that. Ever since that time in 74 when he was filled with the Holy Spirit he began to see the technicolor visions and the Lord began to visit him. I have, however, heard from quite a number of our people who used to attend the Fellowship. he said,Because they rejected me many placesand the Lord has shown me many times, and He (God) said this, this group that was yet to come, He said they would never, ever reject me. He said, This is my family till the end. And I thought, He s got to be the false prophet for sure. Any guy that prophesies that Imgoing to accept him, he is for sure the false prophet. The 1980s reveal the prophets of God. It appears that this law isnt working too well for him these days. . You cursed them. to one aspiring to public ministry. 4 1990). He complained to Mike Bickle one time. Im Christel Berns. How can any of this be attributed to God when Jones is so far removed from understanding the word of God, preaching the word of God and replaces it with new words from his mystical experiences that are not even related to Biblical concepts. . It is Jones who tells us that the prophetic movement was started by an angel named Emma who is androgynous and appeared as female. The accompanying story said that the two spent three nights in a five-star hotel which Hinn booked under a false name. This understanding is so important that we have devoted Section III entirely to giving a history of Bob Jones background, providing examples of his bizarre experiences, and establishing his significance to the Movement. We need to remember that signs and wonders alone in no way assure that the source is God. Bob Jones started having prophetic experiences at the age of 7 years old, and continued to have experiences his entire life. - "About" David Cloud He met Jesus face to face as there were two lines there; One going to everlasting destruction and one leading to eternal life. False prophecy can be a catalyst for false, counterfeit revival, moves of God and ministries! The part that is true is that Bob had been prophesying and reporting his dreams and predictions for years in Kansas City. And I requested Bob that for at least a month that he sit quietly and be still. A prominent figure in the New Apostolic Reformatio n, Jones was the most controversial of the ' Kansas City Prophets .'. Bob Jones, an associate of the Olathe Worship Center of the Metro Vineyard Fellowship of Kansas City, confessed Saturday to sexual misconduct with two women, who attend a Vineyard church in the Kansas City area, said Kenn Gulliksen, North American coordinator for the Association of Vineyard Churches. magazine found that two of the people that the Bentley ministry had reported as examples of his best healings had died of their diseases (Heal or Heel,, reported that police suspected drug overdose and that an envelope of white powder believed to be narcotics was found on Tims, but his mother is fighting in court to have the record sealed, claiming that his cause of death would be an embarrassment to her, his children, her grandchildren and his congregation.. Jones always went first class. Other items we sell to help fund our expensive literature and foreign church planting ministries. 100 years ago the Holy Spirit was revealed. Like Daniel who functioned at an incredible level, Bob has often told leaders their dreams and experiences, as well . But on repentance, testimonies, the manifest presence of God., ______________________ We saved a place for you to receive our weekly newsletter. He was back in the ministry within weeks. He came under a false spirit, and operated out of that spirit, producing a counterfeit move of God! And then willI profess unto them, I never knew you; depart from me (Matthew 7:22.23). Add to thatthe funeral was held in my church; I preached the funeral message and gave an invitation to accept Christ, and several young people took Jesus as their Savior that day. (Testimony Letter 11), The church member:At the maximum, six people of all ages died over a 2-year period, from March 29, 1976, to January 12, 1978: a. Dennis Wagner, age 19;. .until he met Mike Bickle. Jones statements are not only unbiblical but cryptic except to the initiated. 1990 s. In the mid-1990s, Bob Jones University launched distance learning programs through BJU Press, which benefit thousands of students from homeschool families and Christian schools everyday. I didnt haveever any trouble seem the devil!When theyd take over me, Id go completely wackyjust lookin for trouble. This man had a strong proven prophetic ministry, but I had never heard of him. . Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. And it will start a Gods fire( Bob Jones,Visions and Revelations, 1988.). For the first time in history we have a woman angel working inside the church bringing signs to the. The Holy of Holies which your children are called to enter in can crash that threshold. There are going to be thousands of young people gathered from around the world. 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